Shivani Mathur had an aooportunity to have a conversation with Narmeen after her talk and here it is.
By Shivani Mathur
On Tuesday the 28th of August, we had Narmeen Naser from Dubai Jiggy: a platform for creatives boasting artists from over 72 nationalities, talking about Community. A community leader herself, she is someone thatâs working tirelessly towards removing the stigma that Dubai isnât culturally rich. Born and raised in Dubai herself, sheâs always been artistically inclined herself, and loves creating a platform that helps showcase as well as connect artists to each other. I had the opportunity to interview her and get more insight into Dubai Jiggy and her own journey.
Shivani: You studied medicine and development. What’s your own story with art? How and when did you start becoming an artist?
Narmeen: Iâm a very DIY kinda person, I taught myself how to sow, I love gardening, cooking, baking, I like creating things. I used to be like that since I was a kid, loved building things. I always wanted drawing and painting classes but I took up other co-curriculars like sports over art. When I went to university I wanted to study fine arts but because I was a good at science, my parents insisted on science saying that I need to build a science foundation now, I can always pursue art later on. I majored in science and minored in fine arts but it became too much to keep up with so I did one or two courses, loved it, but that was it. All my friends however are artists. I came back here and started working in the corporate world and during one summer, all my friends left Dubai. I was like a single professional out here even though I grew up here. I started pursuing all these things and going to jam jar â I never owned art supplies before and I just started buying canvases and just painting. I would go there 2 or 3 times a week and just loved it there, hated that theyâd close at 10:00, I wanted to paint all night! It got expensive and eventually after 6-8 weeks of going to jam jar, I bought my own supplies and started teaching myself how to paint. I started art after I was already a working professional but Iâve loved art since I was a kid, Iâve visited museums in over 30 countries. It was never a top priority until that summer when I was all alone. 3 months into doing this, I put up my work for some art fairs and it actually started selling, it was the craziest thing and that was an incredibly encouraging factor â that people wanted to buy my work.
Shivani: Why the name Dubai Jiggy?
Narmeen: I had won a dance competition when I was 10 to gettinâ jiggy with it by Will Smith and it was my soundtrack to life. Since then Iâve been called every variation of âJiggyâ: Jiggu, Jigga, Jiggy; I used to play football in school and whether it was my name there, or my Instagram name, it was a name that really stuck. So, I called the platform Dubai Jiggy because of that, and I wanted people to understand that it would sort of bring the fun and art to you, make Dubai jiggy.
Shivani: How to steer people that have an inclination towards art to pursue art part-time, or full-time?
Narmeen: Artists are not easy to work with, as much as I love art, managing 500 artists can get difficult, they have their ego and I donât want them to be too corporate but thereâs no system of communication, itâs still new. Every artist that I speak to, thereâs almost a new language that I have to learn. In terms of how I encourage them to pursue it as a livelihood, I just keep doing what Iâm doing. Iâm still building my foundation and thatâs been hard enough. I canât go to an artist and say, quit your job to do this because I myself canât pay them or support them. Iâm gonna keep doing my events and exhibitions and keep encouraging them to keep producing. I do follow up with artists who havenât been producing art in a while and ask them why they stopped and encourage them to keep creating. I donât see myself as a great artist but I do get to mentor a lot of young artists, young in the professional sense. Itâs nice to be able to help new artists pave a journey.
Shivani: Is there ever a consistent theme that youâve noticed that artists tend to lean towards?
Narmeen: Definitely. So, artists that are just starting out, they are (often) inspired by other artists who are prominent and sell a lot of work. They tend to follow more popular artists and over here, popular art includes horses and camels and Buddha and you see the typical ones everywhere â houses, restaurants; especially the young artists think that these are the ones that sell, and they definitely sell. I always try and tell people, if you try to go down that route as a young artist, you may lose your own path in the process and donât find the ability to create your own voice because you become so busy creating whatâs corporate and what sells. Thatâs what I try to do through my exhibitions, Iâll give them a theme or concept to think about and I wonât accept anything that doesnât reflect that concept. I say âinnovation and communityâ, even if theyâve chosen old artwork, theyâve got to find a way to reflect that. I ask them to think critically: whether itâs the artwork itself or the technique. Even when I used to do art myself I would look at the artists that I love and try to emulate the style. When you go the corporate route what you tend to do is lose your own voice and create only what people are buying, itâs just like creating mass produced goods, I donât really think that that helps build the art community.
Shivani: As a catalyst in people finding people relevant to their art, what’s the most rewarding thing for you? There are many humanitarian causes and things that one can do even relating to art and community building but you chose something as unconventional as being a catalyst for artists to network and find each other. Where does this desire to help propel other artistsâ dreams and creation come from?
Narmeen: Thatâs a really good question actually. For the longest time I thought itâd be cool to be an employee to someone, being a doctor, or working in a lab, working for someone. The whole idea of me being this sort of bridge for others and not having to work for someone else is an idea still new to me. It does make me different from my environment. Both my parentsâ side of the family have a lot of humanatirans within them. My grandmother for example has built a lot of free orphanages, universities, schools and hospitals. I grew up knowing that my grandmother gave away everything that she earned to help the underserved. A lot of people in my family are teachers, itâs a giving society. The whole connecting and blogging and sharing resources thing is new, my own family asks me why I do it and the reason is simple â I like learning and sharing knowledge. I myself am quite in tune with whatâs new happening culturally and I feel like as someone who has this insight into this world, I should give this information to the world. I myself have learnt so much form free resources online, itâs all about being part of this resource sharing economy.
Shivani: If two artists got connected and created something massive beautiful, it isnât often traceable to you, not as much say, the achievements of a student that you teach an NGO. So whatâs the reward system for you then doing so unconventional?
For me, the pride really isnât in the recognition, itâs in knowing that I have taken someone one step further in achieving what they want or didnât even know they could achieve. Connecting artists who didnât think they could achieve much, to change makers that can; that knowledge makes me happy, that I helped create that impact, I donât really need recognition for that. Most of the artists that I work with are way better artists than me since they keep practicing and I see that the opportunities that I provide them with help them win international competitions, being awarded even though they started just 2 years ago. They do often come back to me and say âthis happened because you encouraged us, you were the first one to exhibit our workâ. A lot of the artists you see, their work is being exhibited for the first time despite it being so beautiful since they normally canât pay the fees required to have galleries and exhibitions showcase their work. Knowing that Iâm helping build an art community, creating connections, and knowing that people who want to buy art can now source it locally is my reward system.
Shivani: Iâm sure there are many challenges that you face as a community leader but what are some of the most prominent ones, ones that youâve always faced and continue to face?
Narmeen: Iâm the kind of person who always put 200%, whatever it may be. And because Iâm an emotional person, it really hurts when people are all about constantly taking and not giving back. I love the artist community but every now and then youâll encounter people who just intend to use you, they wonât support you but want your services. Iâm trying to democratize the art here. Most art galleries and fairs will charge artists to showcase their art but I donât. Events and exhibitions usually take about 6 weeks to plan and if at the end nothing sells, thatâs very difficult, especially given that Iâve charged artists nothing. Iâm doing this full time and thereâs always this thought, âShould I just go corporate? This is what I love doing but no one here seems to appreciate meâ. Thatâs definitely a challenge.
Another challenge is that sometimes because Iâve built relationships with my artists often I canât be very professional. We have WhatsApp conversations and become friendly. Thatâs the downside of becoming a community, you become like family and because you become like family you tend to lose out on professionalism. Iâll have an exhibition and say, âthe last deadline is 2 weeks priorâ and I have artists messaging me 2 days prior asking if they can take part and because Iâve become friends with them, itâs so hard to say no. I have started to be and am trying to be sterner with restriction and only accept genuine excuses. Every new exhibition I get like 50 new artists and like to give opportunities to new artists and therefore have started not giving in to requests by artists who were simply lazy and didnât respect deadlines â since that wouldnât be fair to other artists.
Shivani: With such a large community of people to lead, doesnât scheduling and meet-ups become a major concern? How do you deal with it when artists donât show up to meetings or not come through with deadlines?
Narmeen: Honestly, now that my community has over 500 members, if they miss out they miss out I wonât follow up with them. But initially when I had started, Iâd send at least 7 follow-up emails to them, both artists and change makers. Theyâd have to fill out questionnaires and it was difficult to get them to do that. With change makers for them to take time, I understand, theyâre change making. But it would take a long time and after theyâd respond Iâd connect them to artists who would take ages to respond, sometimes just disappear⊠only to say 3 months later that theyâre âjust not inspired by the projectâ. We didnât have a website then and manually following up and connecting with these artists. Artists who have worked professionally, in the corporate sector are much better that way. A large part of my community are older women who have never worked before and students.
The good thing was that the artists, we didnât have any kind of track record to say that weâre gonna sell art for you or that weâre super established. Â But the fact that there were artists who were putting in time to put in time and effort into an impact project when they could have been creating work that would definitely sell, that was definitely amazing. If someone randomly comes up to me as says âI want to commission this to youâ Iâd say you have to pay me initially. We were commissioning all this curated artwork and the fact that even some really prominent artists did it for us as well was amazing, it was time spent away from artwork that they could really sell. That was a really great part about working with artists with great integrity and vision and want to do something thatâs greater than them.
Shivani: Has Dubai and UAE: the people, the community, the enterprises the government sector: the local network greatly helped Dubai Jiggy?
Narmeen: If I tried to do what Iâm doing here in a place like say, Canada or Australia and I say these two because theyâre the places that Iâve lived in; it wouldnât work so well because theyâre older nations with more established art networks and just getting your foot in the door to help artists connect with one another would be a struggle. All my artist friends based in Canada donât even paint anymore, theyâre all in corporate jobs. They didnât have sufficient art related opportunities because itâs an already saturated market. For me who has studied medicine and not arts is so involved with the fine arts here, I credit that to the UAE because you can shape and grow things. Thereâs a sense of collaboration here especially since artists are coming from so many backgrounds, thereâs a willingness to make things work here.
We have our 1st CreativeMornings Dubai podcast to share, Narmeenâs talk.
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/nightline/episodes/2018-09-05T06_01_31-07_00
Next week we are back with CHAOS on September 19th!
